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of state clinton, that if there was movement of any chemical weapons of mass destruction, movement -- now, as i listen to what you're saying, there hasn't been movement. it looks like they're getting ready where they are, but they haven't moved yet, so maybe they haven't violated the red line exactly. >> that's right, larry. they've got everything in place to do that. but what are the possibilities here? u.s. military officials say it would be very difficult to target certain areas. there are possibilities if they're going to load them on the planes. they could use cruise missiles to attack airstrips, for example. they can't blow up the weapons sites themselves, otherwise then the deadly gases could be spread among the public and kill thousands. the only other option according to some people that i've been talking to over the past couple of days is possibly take those cruise missiles and aim them not only at the airport strips, but at regime targets. even perhaps president assad himself. but so far, we haven't gotten there, the big question is can the u.s. react quickly enough if sud
of state clinton, that if there was movement of any chemical weapons of mass destruction, movement -- now, as i listen to what you're saying, there hasn't been movement. it looks like they're getting ready where they are, but they haven't moved yet, so maybe they haven't violated the red line exactly. >> that's right, larry. they've got everything in place to do that. but what are the possibilities here? u.s. military officials say it would be very difficult to target certain areas. there...
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speaker boehner came out and gave a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> but tyler, as you suggested, this is all a work in progress. the thing we cannot see that is not visible to the public or to the press is what's going on behind the scenes. staff discussions resumed yesterday. don't know
speaker boehner came out and gave a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>...
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let's remember, when republicans were majority in the house and the senate and we had clinton, who was a democrat, we put work requirements in welfarr. we cut the nuer of people on welfare down from about five million to three million. then obama comes in and, so he reinstates it and takes the work requirements out and now people are outraged because we have these people on food stamp. melissa: stop this one next. this one is absolutely insane. thank you so much for coming on tonight. we appreciate your time. >> you bet. melissa: time for today's fuel gauge report. freshwater forecasts expected decline in inventories sent natural gas stocks soaring. a cold front expected to move into th u.s. raising the outlook for natural gas demand. oh, no. >>> freeport-mcmoran is plunging head first into oil. the mining giant is buying plains exploration and mcmoran exploration for a total of $9 billion in cash and stock. freeport will also assume about $11 billion in debt. >>> u.s. oil production reached its highest level in almost 15 years in september. new data from the energy information adminis
let's remember, when republicans were majority in the house and the senate and we had clinton, who was a democrat, we put work requirements in welfarr. we cut the nuer of people on welfare down from about five million to three million. then obama comes in and, so he reinstates it and takes the work requirements out and now people are outraged because we have these people on food stamp. melissa: stop this one next. this one is absolutely insane. thank you so much for coming on tonight. we...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying none of this would have happened if barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal pos
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying none of this would have happened if barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are...
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i've still got a pen, i've still got a pen. >> president obama owes president clinton a great deal for helping him get elected. number one, we need a meaningful citizen education engagement effort with the white house in formada, next year to build the case for a grand bargain. the official version of what i did and what my colleagues did over the last several months and we need congressional hearings that will set the stage for tax reforms, social security reform and the president needs to negotiate privately and have discussions with congressional leaders of both parties privately. those three things can get us to the promt promise land. and without all three of those, we're in trouble. >> but, david, that is exactly what was supposed to happen between july of 2011 and today. and guess what? none of it has happened. none of it. we're having the same conversation. >> you know what? >> only the president can lead. only the president can lead. >> he has the pen. he has joe's pen. >> mine is a viagra pen. wouldn't that be embarrassing if he held that up and said i have a pen? >> i don't
i've still got a pen, i've still got a pen. >> president obama owes president clinton a great deal for helping him get elected. number one, we need a meaningful citizen education engagement effort with the white house in formada, next year to build the case for a grand bargain. the official version of what i did and what my colleagues did over the last several months and we need congressional hearings that will set the stage for tax reforms, social security reform and the president needs...
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. >> he has to deal with debt -- >> $6 trillion now obama debt. >> juan, can you concede that his -- if he said the clinton tax cuts are good, then he needs to make sure the clinton tax cuts are back in place for all people, not just the rich. but just imposing tax on the rich, you will have to concede, is part of his class warfare scheme and his desire to get even with the successful people. it's contrary to the american dream. it will not do anything to address our revenue issue and our debt issue. david, how can you support this? >> david, just a moment. you and sean both agree, and i want to join you in this, we need to do something about spending in this country, it's out of control. we need to limb the size of government. if you truly believe these things, then you say it's not just about imposing damage on the middle class, the poor who rely on social safety net programs. you have to say the rich have to have some skin in the game. >> hang on one second. >> and they do, they do. >> hang on, hang on. >> and it in terms of tax rates in this country. >> hold on. one sec. i want t
. >> he has to deal with debt -- >> $6 trillion now obama debt. >> juan, can you concede that his -- if he said the clinton tax cuts are good, then he needs to make sure the clinton tax cuts are back in place for all people, not just the rich. but just imposing tax on the rich, you will have to concede, is part of his class warfare scheme and his desire to get even with the successful people. it's contrary to the american dream. it will not do anything to address our revenue...
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number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to aée4 with the same question. i will argue that even though he hasn't specified the deductions or the loopholes he's going to close, the governor is right, there isn't enough at the top to close to make up for this advantage they have now but it seems he's accepting the moral argument. he's saying, the rich should get socked, too. that was an amazing admission for him to say to that. your thoughts. >> i agree with you. the fact that john boehner is out there saying we are asking the rich to pay more in taxes is not something they ever would have done in 2011. if you remember, math by details in the sit
number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to...
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obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected the schumer deal. they don't have the leverage to get it. >> here we disagree. i think they may have a case. if the bogey man is the millionaire -- >> i think that's where it's going to end up. i think that's the flektability in the negotiations at the end is over to whom the higher rates apply. >> but they don't raise
obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate...
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. >> lanny, if what you say is true, that the clinton tax cuts did it, why doesn't barack obama say let's have back all of the clinton tax hikes? let's have back all of the clinton tax increases object on everybody and we'll have a boom because he knows in his heart what he knew in 2010. you raise taxes on everybody, and a weak economy like we've got and you will send it into the dumpster. that's what he's threatening to do. >> that's a fair point. that's the reason it's a weak economy. when bill clinton raised taes and ended up with a surplus, conservatives like yourself loved the fact we had a surplus underather than under the last o administrations. we now have a $16 trillion national debt. >> one question, lanny. under bill clinton, they cut defense spending from reagan 6% of gdp to 3%. cut it in half as a percentage of the economy. that's why he got a balanced budget. he hatched defense. >> we've got to take a break. guys, stay there. by the way, don't forget, bill clinton had newt gingrich and they were a big part of it. actually, clinton sat down with gingrich. i don't see # i don'
. >> lanny, if what you say is true, that the clinton tax cuts did it, why doesn't barack obama say let's have back all of the clinton tax hikes? let's have back all of the clinton tax increases object on everybody and we'll have a boom because he knows in his heart what he knew in 2010. you raise taxes on everybody, and a weak economy like we've got and you will send it into the dumpster. that's what he's threatening to do. >> that's a fair point. that's the reason it's a weak...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...
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as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i thinkç it's a good faith efforts to take in a wide range of views. we know that president obama in his first term, obviously, went with secretary gates despite his ties to republican foreign policy. hagel is more of a progressive voice, but i'm not sure that a second-term obama presidency reaches back to another republican defense figure. >> and as to the john kerry/susan rice dilemma that the president faces, he says that the attacks on susan rice won't affect his decision one way or another. it won't force his hand to nominate her, and it won't affect his decision to go with senator kerry, if that's what he chooses to do. is he going to be able to incredibly present his cho
as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i thinkç it's a good faith efforts to take in a wide range of views. we know...
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hillary clinton is going to soon be stepping down from secretary of state. leon panetta does not plan to stay on for president obama. although there's fuzziness around that. and the nation needs a cia director post-david petraeus. now president obama may announce his pick for defense secretary within the next couple weeks and he may make it in a high-powered package announcement along with his choice for secretary of state. so all these jobs coming up, state, defense, cia, all will need to be confirmed by the senate and will be announced maybe at once and before christmas. maybe this is the time to have the debate about the way our national security is run. the debate we did not necessarily have before we started making big fundamental changes to that system that mostly just still get discussed behind closed doors. joining us now is senator claire mccaskill, chair of the support subcommittee. thank you for being here. >> it's great to be here. >> you and i have had a lot of interesting conversations over the years about national security. in part, because we
hillary clinton is going to soon be stepping down from secretary of state. leon panetta does not plan to stay on for president obama. although there's fuzziness around that. and the nation needs a cia director post-david petraeus. now president obama may announce his pick for defense secretary within the next couple weeks and he may make it in a high-powered package announcement along with his choice for secretary of state. so all these jobs coming up, state, defense, cia, all will need to be...
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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
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all this coming just days after president obama warned the syrian regime of consequences if it turned chemical weapons on its own citizens. and today secretary of state hillary clinton saying the world has made that perfectly clear to president bashar assad. >> we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> activists saying at least 40,000 people have died in the antigovernment uprising that began last year. now evidence the blood shed is again seeping across another border into lebanon. gunmen loyal to the syrian regime and rebels fought it out on the streets in the northern part of that country. dozens reported dead in two days of fighting there. similar clashes have erupted more than a dozen times before in lebanon. more violence and death that we can trace back to the actions of one man. and today a new warning from the head of the united nations that president assad probably should not expect any mercy from his counterparts around the world. jonathan hunt has more on that from the united nations here in new
all this coming just days after president obama warned the syrian regime of consequences if it turned chemical weapons on its own citizens. and today secretary of state hillary clinton saying the world has made that perfectly clear to president bashar assad. >> we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> activists saying at least 40,000 people have died in the antigovernment uprising that began last year....
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schultz, said this about secretary clinton today on andrea mitchell reports. >> she is an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service. and knowing secretary clinton, i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long. >> and the race for the 2016 republican presidential nomination, moments ago, congressman paul ryan spoke at the jack kemp foundation dinner where senator rubio was receiving a leadership award paul ryan won last year. >> marco is joining an elite group of past recipients of the reward. i'll see you at the reunion dinner. >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> joe klein, the games apparently have begun. >> only for those of us -- >> 2016 will be a lot more fun than 2012 was. and you know, up until a few weeks ago, i had the democratic ticket set. it would be a hillary clinton/david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know. >> we have to rewrite half of it. >> ye
schultz, said this about secretary clinton today on andrea mitchell reports. >> she is an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service. and knowing secretary clinton, i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long. >> and the race for the 2016 republican presidential nomination, moments ago, congressman paul ryan spoke at the jack kemp foundation dinner where senator rubio was receiving a...
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both michelle obama and bill clinton were nominated in the category best spoken word album. good for them. yeah. yeah. true story. michelle was nominated for the audio version of her book american grown, and bill clinton was nominated for the audio version "50 shades of gray." >> "early start" continues right now. >>> breaking news near tokyo. a powerful earthquake hit off the coast. a tsunami warning issued. and then lifted. we go live to japan straight ahead. >>> and the "new york post" photographer who took the picture of the man on the subway tracks before he was hit sits down to tell us his side of the story. we'll hear from him this hour. >>> and imagine a professional football game without kickoffs. it's just one of the suggestions to improve the safety of the game for players. details this hour on cnn. >> i'm curious as to how everybody feels about that. >> welcome to "early start." i'm christine roman by devastating tsunami that killed 15,000 people and caused widespread damage. the tsunami this time hit a place called -- or near a town almost totally devastated in
both michelle obama and bill clinton were nominated in the category best spoken word album. good for them. yeah. yeah. true story. michelle was nominated for the audio version of her book american grown, and bill clinton was nominated for the audio version "50 shades of gray." >> "early start" continues right now. >>> breaking news near tokyo. a powerful earthquake hit off the coast. a tsunami warning issued. and then lifted. we go live to japan straight...
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we're hering so far a measured response from the obama administration. >> secretary hillary clinton says it calls for ugt talks between president morsi. >> we have expressed that repeatedly over the last weeks. because almost two years ago, the egyptian people took to the streets because they wanted real democratic change. and they, therefore, not the americans, or anyone else, deserve a constitution that protects the rights of all egyptians. >> future could depend on how the situation plays out and if president morsi chooses democracy or dictatorship. >> i spoke about that with a guest. >> you met with high officials at the state department, the u.s. still provides egypt with economic and military assistance, about $1.3 million a year. hundreds of millions in economic aide, did they race that issue with you? there was concern that if president morsi continues to move in that direction, the u.s. assistance could be in trouble. >> i think it's important for the united states than it is for egypt. it's mutual interest and mutual benefit. and the relationship is depending on the relationshi
we're hering so far a measured response from the obama administration. >> secretary hillary clinton says it calls for ugt talks between president morsi. >> we have expressed that repeatedly over the last weeks. because almost two years ago, the egyptian people took to the streets because they wanted real democratic change. and they, therefore, not the americans, or anyone else, deserve a constitution that protects the rights of all egyptians. >> future could depend on how the...
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if barak obama has growth not much more than 2%, his legacy will be ashes. it's surprising to me that he is incapable of recognizing that and trying to put something in place that will bring the economy back to life. >> gretchen: read all about it in the "wall street journal." always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> steve: straight ahead, he joined the army after pearl harbor and then flew on missions to test the atomic bomb. up next, this world war ii veteran, he will share his incredible story. then they can't make a deal in the fiscal cliff. what do you know about your elected officials and what are they doing instead? passing a bill that bans -- had is big -- wait for it -- bans the word lunatic. that's crazy! [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. hurry in and
if barak obama has growth not much more than 2%, his legacy will be ashes. it's surprising to me that he is incapable of recognizing that and trying to put something in place that will bring the economy back to life. >> gretchen: read all about it in the "wall street journal." always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> steve: straight ahead, he joined the army after pearl harbor and then flew on missions to test the atomic bomb. up next, this world war ii veteran, he will...
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. >> the public attitudes changed, not only president obama supporting same sex marriage, president clinton who signed defense of marriage act into law, he supports gay marriage, but the american public attitudes have changed. back in 2005, 35% thought same sex marriage should be recognized. now it is up to 53%. here is the question. do the justices, the nine justices, are they influenced by public opinion? >> you bet. they sure are. this is an issue that wouldn't even have been on the agenda had the public not changed so dramatically. let me just tell you a story from supreme court history. 1986, the first real significant gay rights case that the court ever had, the swing vote at the time was lewis powell. and he was in his chambers, said to his law clerk, you know, i don't think i ever met a homosexual. no justice would say that today. as it turned out, that law clerk himself was a gay man, although he didn't disclose it to the justice at the time. the world has changed so dramatically, the polls have changed. justice ruth ginsberg often talks about the reason she won as a lawyer all the
. >> the public attitudes changed, not only president obama supporting same sex marriage, president clinton who signed defense of marriage act into law, he supports gay marriage, but the american public attitudes have changed. back in 2005, 35% thought same sex marriage should be recognized. now it is up to 53%. here is the question. do the justices, the nine justices, are they influenced by public opinion? >> you bet. they sure are. this is an issue that wouldn't even have been on...
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the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age, means testing, things like that. so then we have about $600 billion in essentially spending cuts, half from mandatory spending, half from discretionary spending. this is the other very interesting thing that's new. $200 billion from revising the consumer price index. that sounds very technical. but it has very real world consequences because it very much could affect the money, the checks that social security recipients in particular get every single month because it effectively changes inflation so it changes the formula from what they would get. >> significant differences between the white hous
the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age,...
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early next week secretary clinton travels to morocco for a meeting of the so-called friends of syria group. the focus will be on the opposition with the obama administration taking the first steps towards officially recognizing them. jill dougherty, cnn, dublin. >>> we're just a few minutes away from speaking with senator jim demint of south carolina. he's here live in "the situation room." he will explain his stunning decision today to resign from the senate. [ roasting firewood ] ♪ many hot dogs are within you. try pepto-bismol to-go, it's the power of pepto, but it fits in your pocket. now tell the world daniel... of pepto-bismol to-go. >>> let's get the latest on the new york subway death that became infamous by a haunting newspaper photo. lis is sylvester's monitoring that and other top stories in "the situation room" right now. what's the latest? >> wolf, the suspect was arraigned and charged with second-degree murder. the 30-year-old homeless man is being held without bail until he appears in court again tuesday. a photo that appeared on the front page of the "new york post"
early next week secretary clinton travels to morocco for a meeting of the so-called friends of syria group. the focus will be on the opposition with the obama administration taking the first steps towards officially recognizing them. jill dougherty, cnn, dublin. >>> we're just a few minutes away from speaking with senator jim demint of south carolina. he's here live in "the situation room." he will explain his stunning decision today to resign from the senate. [ roasting...
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. >> those are tough words coming from president obama, from secretary of state hillary clinton, from the nato secretary-general today in brussels. but is that enough to president bahar al assad from using chemical weapons or is there something else the international community should be doing? >> it's important, and i'm sure this is being conveyed to him, it's important that he understands that that response is going to be emphatic. so it won't be in other words that we issue a strong statement. there will be some action that will follow. look, i think he will appreciate that. but the real question is how do we bring this appalling disaster, which is unfolding in syria, to an end to try and get a situation where you move to a different type of constitution in which the people can have a say in electing their government. and where the countries then are put on a more stable footing. because once that goes, then what? so this is fantastically difficult. once you lift the lid off these very repressive regimes and out comes all this religious and tribal tension, we have to find a way to s
. >> those are tough words coming from president obama, from secretary of state hillary clinton, from the nato secretary-general today in brussels. but is that enough to president bahar al assad from using chemical weapons or is there something else the international community should be doing? >> it's important, and i'm sure this is being conveyed to him, it's important that he understands that that response is going to be emphatic. so it won't be in other words that we issue a...